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[Уитни]

Про то,что из claridge выгнал правда.
В 2018.

 

ты уже прочитала всю статью? я нет)

[Sky]

Конечно)))

[Уитни]

Про то,что из claridge выгнал правда.

 

а от кого был этот инсайд? я уже не помню.

Finally, there is the part played by Hammer’s estranged wife, Elizabeth Chambers. Last September, Chambers sat down for an interview with E! in which she struck a conciliatory note about her ex. Hammer, she said, was “in a really great place” with his recovery from alcohol and drug addiction. He was trying to be “the best father, the best person he can be.” Hammer, she said, “has been focused on his healing,” and she was “here to support that process.” (According to Hammer, although Chambers filed for divorce in the summer of 2020, she has yet to sign their divorce agreement.)

 

она не подписывает доки о разводе. она тянет. она не хочет развода. жесть! даже после всего.

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Пейдж и Кортни отказались от интервью для его psycho evaluation, а мусор нет.

[Уитни]

может divorce agreement уже есть. но она не подписывает?

[Sky]

может divorce agreement уже есть. но она не подписывает?

Да.

[Уитни]

Пейдж и Кортни отказались от интервью для его psycho evaluation, а мусор нет.

 

почему Пейдж и Кортни отказались? струсили. ибо многое из того, что они говорили было либо диким преувеличением, либо переиначиванием реальных вещей, либо ложью.

а мусор соврала про то, что не дала Чембе evaluation.

[Sky]

Мусор отказывается сотрудничать с расследованием.

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https://en.wikipedia...Mail_(magazine)

Air Mail is a digital weekly newsletter launched in July 2019 by former Vanity Fair editor-in-chief Graydon Carter and former New York Times reporter Alessandra Stanley

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Over the past two years, Effie has used her popular Instagram account as a clearinghouse for attacks on Hammer and anyone who would associate with him. In one April 2021 post, for instance, she boasted of having pressured The Late Late Show into removing all content featuring Hammer from its YouTube channel. Last December, she lashed out at Robert Downey Jr., who reportedly paid for Hammer’s rehab. “@robertdowneyjr I pray that another man does to your daughters what Armie did to me .” Effie posted a similar message to Hammer’s lawyer Blair Berk, who has represented other celebrities accused of sexual misconduct, including Marilyn Manson and Johnny Depp. Asked by a follower about her “biggest fear,” Effie responded, “That A[rmie] or his family will eventually retaliate and kill me.”

 

все то,что она делала за эти 2 года будет использовано против нее. вот почему ее не затыкали. 

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“That’s a very important part of the B.D.S.M. world,” he continues. “The consent. Because you’re doing things that are pushing envelopes. You’re doing things that are beyond the [realm of] ‘Let’s have missionary sex with the lights off.’ You have to have that trust. You have to have that vulnerability with someone. You have to have that aspect of ‘I am willingly giving my control over to this person,’” he says, adding, “You know, the sub [the submissive partner] is the one who actually has all the power. Always. They’re the ones who can say ‘stop’ at any moment. They’re the ones who set the boundaries.”

That Hammer was able to hide his addictions from the world, his industry colleagues, and even his closest friends is a perverse testament to his skills as an actor. “Armie was super-functional, high-performative,” says his childhood friend Nick Delli Santi, who works in real estate, “in what has turned out to be the lowest of lowest moments that we weren’t even really aware of.”

он считает, что благодаря этому скандалу он попал в рехаб и занялся своим здоровьем. 

A Dark Episode
“If someone came up to me and gave me a magic lamp and said, ‘There’s a genie in here, but it only gives you one wish. If you rub this lamp, the genie will come out and take you back two years in the past, and you could undo all of this,’ I wouldn’t do it,” Hammer told me. We were in Los Angeles, where he was caring for his ailing father, Michael. For an erstwhile movie star who had lost his wealth, his reputation, and his career in a matter of weeks, Hammer seemed remarkably at peace.

 

That sense of equanimity is due largely to his entering rehab for drug and alcohol abuse, at the end of May 2021. “I’m now grateful for everything that’s happened to me, because, as it says in the ‘Twelve and Twelve’ [Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions, the guidebook of Alcoholics Anonymous], pain is the touchstone of spiritual progress,” Hammer says. “I’m now a healthier, happier, more balanced person. I’m able to be there for my kids in a way I never was. I’m able to be there for my dad as he’s dying in a way that I would have never been able to be. I’m truly grateful for my life and my recovery and everything. I would not go back and undo everything that’s happened to me.” (Michael Hammer died on November 20, three weeks after my interview with his son.)

 

(Michael Hammer died on November 20, three weeks after my interview with his son.)

 

значит это интервью прошло 31 октября?

Сообщение отредактировал Уитни: 04 февраля 2023 - 14:29

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https://airmail.news...tm_source=share


The Story Behind the Armie Hammer Story
Author James Kirchick takes listeners inside his reporting, and what it was like to speak with the actor

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Арми говорит, что он предпочитает быть безработным актером с разрушенной репутацией, чем жить в Чембой в несчастливом браке.

Hammer realizes how strange it must sound for him to say that he wouldn’t trade his current existence as an unemployed object of international ridicule for the ostensibly charmed life he once led. But as he sees it, without the changes forced by his very public humiliation, he would still be stuck in an unhappy marriage, leading an out-of-control lifestyle rife with drug abuse, alcoholism, and sex addiction. He would still be seeking out relationships with women that, while intensely emotional and sexually gratifying, were ultimately harmful to both parties. And, most importantly, he would not be the father that his children need him to be.

напомню, что чемба в интервью Е! описала их брак как "подарок", мол брак был счастливым и прекрасным. 

To explain the origins of his interest in B.D.S.M., Hammer returns to a dark episode from his childhood, a subject he has never discussed publicly. At the age of 13, Hammer says, a youth pastor at the church his family attended sexually abused him for a period lasting nearly a year. “What that did for me was it introduced sexuality into my life in a way that it was completely out of my control,” he recalls. “I was powerless in the situation. I had no agency in the situation. My interests then went to: I want to have control in the situation, sexually.”

 

я думала, что это было только один раз. но это продолжалось почти год. жесть. те скриншоты Эффи оказались реальными. он говорил ей об этом. его мать заставляла его ночевать в доме этого пастора. 

Скай, можешь найти те скриншоты Эффи и репостнуть? в каком году он писал их ей?

But it was only through the therapy that he entered after the scandal broke that Hammer drew the connection between his adult interest in B.D.S.M. and his childhood trauma. At the time the abuse was happening, Hammer told his parents that the pastor made him vaguely uncomfortable, without getting into details. “This is a man of God” is how Hammer characterizes their reaction. “How dare you say these kinds of things? He wants to give you attention, and that’s nice.” Hammer’s mother, Dru Ann Mobley, is a staunch Christian; in an interview with Dr. Oz, Paige Lorenze said that Mobley told her that Hammer had “demonic behaviors” and that “the devil was trying to take him.”

 

At the time, Hammer says, he told only two people about the abuse: an older friend (who has since died) and his godmother, Candace Garvey (who corroborated his account).

 

According to Hammer, the sexual abuse he endured as a young boy “set a dangerous precedent in my life.” As a result of that experience, Hammer says that his “sexual interests became about being in control, because being out of control was very dangerous for me and very uncomfortable.” Hammer insists that this notion of “being in control” does not manifest as a compulsion to be violent with women; he’s adamant that he never engaged in non-consensual sex with any of his partners. Nor, he says, does he derive pleasure from the idea of it.

 

At the time, Hammer says, he told only two people about the abuse: an older friend (who has since died) and his godmother, Candace Garvey (who corroborated his account).

 

а как же Эффи? 

“The whole point of this is mutual pleasure,” he explains of the sexual practices that have inspired so much lurid fascination and mockery. “If you’re engaged in some sort of sexual act with someone and they’re not enjoying themselves, for me, I’m not enjoying myself. When two people are engaged in something, especially an intense scene, the symbiosis of it is what makes it magical. If one person’s not enjoying it and you feel that energy, maybe there are people who enjoy that, but that’s not me. I get so much pleasure giving someone pleasure.”

 

Hammer met Chambers when he was 19 and married her three years later, which meant that he had few opportunities to explore this aspect of his sexuality. “Had I had more aggressive sex [before meeting Chambers]? Yeah,” he acknowledges. “Had I spanked people, or anything [at the] surface of B.D.S.M.? Yes. But I had never got to planning out and executing ‘scenes,’ as they’re called.”

и всё таки, как они получили эти сообщения? они были только в телефонах чембы и эффи.

First there are her own conflicting statements about the nature of their sexual relationship. In the fall of 2017, after Hammer disclosed that he had had an affair to his wife, Angelova and Chambers began engaging in D.M. conversations over Instagram. In these conversations, obtained exclusively by AIR MAIL, Angelova says in one apologetic message, “I was pretty much chasing him.” She further told Chambers that “he kept saying he was married and couldn’t do this and how he’s never cheated in so many years of marriage and would feel absolutely terrible if he started and I kept pursuing him. He kept blocking me. So I kept trying and I shouldn’t have.”

у Эффи была возможность дать комментарии для этой статьи, но она отказалась. 

On January 8, 2021, two days before going public with her initial accusations, Angelova shared a D.M. to an Instagram follower that stated the sex she had with Hammer was “consensual,” that he was “such an amazing Daddy,” and that he “is not dangerous. He didn’t rape anyone.” The following day, asked by another follower if she had “legal representation,” she responded, “I’m not saying he raped me, no need for legal rep.” (Angelova did not respond to multiple requests for comment, and blocked me on Instagram after I sent her a detailed list of questions.)

Эффи преследовала его.

Then there is the question of whether Hammer would have been physically capable of performing the acts of which Effie accused him. In early January 2017, Hammer seriously injured his pectoral muscle while lifting weights. The injury, which required emergency surgery and left Hammer in a sling for about a month, was sufficiently serious as to make him fear for the future of his career.

One of the doctors who treated Hammer tells me that “the rehabilitation from an injury like this would be measured … realistically probably in the realm of four to six months.” Medical records provided by Hammer indicate that he attended physical-therapy sessions on April 26 and 28 of 2017, the day before and after he allegedly committed a violent rape that lasted for more than four continuous hours. It would not be until the following June that he was able to start lifting weights again.

Angelova, though she later wrote on Instagram that she had wanted “to move to Antarctica to escape him,” appeared not to have moved on. In October 2017, six months after the alleged rape, she followed Hammer to the London premiere of Call Me by Your Name. In video taken that day from the red carpet, she can be seen standing behind Hammer in the crowd. The following September, Angelova took a road trip through Italy and stopped in Crema, the picturesque village where the film was shot. While there, she tracked down Guadagnino and posed with the director for a selfie.

In December 2018, Hammer requested that the security team at a luxury hotel in London bar her from the premises while he was conducting a publicity tour for On the Basis of Sex, the biopic of Ruth Bader Ginsberg, in which he played the late Supreme Court justice’s husband. The following spring, Angelova traveled to the Cannes Film Festival, where she met up with a group of other Hammer fans expecting to see the actor, and she tracked him down in Nice, where he was shooting the film Rebecca.

Сообщение отредактировал Уитни: 04 февраля 2023 - 15:10

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Вагмайстер

https://variety.com/...tor-1235512611/

Armie Hammer Says He Was Sexually Abused by Youth Pastor at 13, Contemplated Suicide After Rape Allegation

Полный игнор чембы.

https://www.latimes....ations-response

Armie Hammer admits he ‘used people’ in first interview about sexual abuse allegations

Полный игнор чембы.

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мы были правы. Глория Оллред вышла с Эффи без какого-либо подписания какого-либо документа, что ее утверждения не ложны. теперь она прячется.

Reportedly, almost two years after accusing Hammer of rape in a televised press conference watched by millions around the world, Angelova has yet to sign an affidavit swearing to her allegations, which may have been one of the reasons why Gloria Allred dropped her as a client last fall. (Allred declined to comment for this story.) According to Hammer, Angelova never initiated legal proceedings against him.

Глория Оллред - ты некомпетентный адвокат. позорище!